When news broke last week that there were misleading “robocalls” placed to a few ridings on the federal Election Day, it barely took two seconds for the accusations to start flying. And mysteriously fly in one direction they did.
“The largest electoral fraud in Canadian history” the NDP screamed.
The Liberals said this was a “Nixonian culture” created by the Prime Minister, a reference to the former U.S. President who resigned after his campaign workers were caught breaking into the Opposition’s offices to dig up dirt.
It was one clear direction in which the accusations were flying, and that was towards the Conservatives.
But I’m proud to have seen so many Canadians stand up and not buy the left’s rhetoric. They preferred to ask the common sense question: “is there any proof of the Conservatives doing this?”
Such a question, ironically, has been met with confusion and will be the NDP’s and Liberal’s ultimate undoing of their empty rhetoric.
Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Parliamentary Secretary Dean Del Mastro have repeatedly told the NDP and Liberals: if you have evidence, give it to Elections Canada and the RCMP. Let them do their investigation.
The continued unsubstantiated screams from the left side of the House are the ultimate revelation of the Opposition’s response to the Prime Minister’s simple yet smart challenge: do you have evidence?
Indeed, one week after the original story broke, the only thing we know is that we know surprisingly little, and we most certainly cannot label any one party or person as being responsible. But let’s review what we do know:
1. Brian Lilley of Sun News has obtained the original Access to Information Request which was used by Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher to break the story last week. In its 190 pages of documentation, only three pages describe the complaints about the “robocall” issue. The rest describe issues such as the RCMP responding to a closed polling station because the Clerk and Returning Officer wanted to go for dinner. But in those three pages of information on the robocalls, here’s the kicker: Elections Canada acknowledges
1. Brian Lilley of Sun News has obtained the original Access to Information Request which was used by Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher to break the story last week. In its 190 pages of documentation, only three pages describe the complaints about the “robocall” issue. The rest describe issues such as the RCMP responding to a closed polling station because the Clerk and Returning Officer wanted to go for dinner. But in those three pages of information on the robocalls, here’s the kicker: Elections Canada acknowledges
“There was no conduct reported that would bring into question the integrity of the election result overall or the result in a particular riding. Although misconduct was reported in several ridings, there is no complaint that it affected the final result. There is some speculation in the media that the dirty tricks may have affected the result in some close contests.”
They even say the misleading robocalls are “legal but seen as ‘unfair’ by candidates.” But of course, we haven't heard of this essential statement because it entirely disproves the NDP's and Liberal's claims.
So from where is all that “evidence” stemming from which the media has used since this original ATI request? From “evidence” gathered by the NDP and Liberals themselves!
So from where is all that “evidence” stemming from which the media has used since this original ATI request? From “evidence” gathered by the NDP and Liberals themselves!
2. We know that what I said last week was true: the media and the Opposition gravely libeled Michael Sona, with no evidence whatsoever that he was the one responsible for the calls. Indeed, the Globe and Mail reported Sona’s name “just started circulating.” Got it? Someone, somewhere picked up that Sona had resigned from his office, for who knows what reason, and they ran with it.
3. Even some of the state broadcaster’s (the CBC’s) main personalities are refusing to report such garbage slander against the Conservatives. Rick Mercer, in his February 28, 2012 rant, refused to say the Conservatives were the ones behind the robocalls. Terry Milewski on whether there was anything at all implying Conservative involvement. Milewski responded “nothing at all.”
changed scripts on their own, without the knowledge of their superiors or the party; were clearly instructed to identify themselves as representatives of the “Conservative Party of Canada;” and witnessed some of their co-workers deciding on their own to falsely say they were calling from Elections Canada. Of course, the left-leaning Toronto Star chooses to spin this into saying the Conservatives were the ones falsely identifying themselves as Elections Canada. Did they not just sentences earlier acknowledge these call centre employees acted without the authorization of the Conservatives?
there were irregularities, fraud or corrupt or illegal practices that affected the result of the election” (s. 524). But there is of course a statute of limitations: the Act says it’s the later of 30 days after either a) the election result is published in the Canada Gazette; or b) the claimant became aware of the supposed fraud or irregularity (s. 527). The CBC reported on May 2, 2011 that there were suspicious calls going out to supporters of all parties, in several ridings, and clarified that Elections Canada was not behind these calls. So the 30-day limit begins on May 2, 2011. Game over, NDP. Or, if we want to be really generous and say we only became aware of these allegations last week, that leaves the claimant until mid-March 2012 to make a claim of electoral fraud in court. But, you know, that’s just the law.
Will taxpayers will be on hook for court costs by opposition making those unproven allegations?
ReplyDeleteYou're a fucking idiot.
ReplyDeleteWell if it isn't Pat ( fuck you ) Martin... Hi Pat... I see you're exercising you're intellect again... nice.
DeleteAh... the intelligent voice of the left...
DeleteMost definetely Anonymous.
ReplyDeletePlease ask Harper to turn over all Conservative paperwork, including financial contracts, audio recordings from call centres, scripts and other documentation relating to 2012 election call centre campaign to both Opposition Parties.
ReplyDeleteElections Canada and the RCMP for review so that we can get to the bottom of this mess.
Tories need to stop playing the victim and offer true transparency.
What proof do you have put up or shut up
Deleteanon if your so gullable to even listen to those phone calls then your not that smart. most people check there elections canada card and if there not sure they phone the number on the back. if you don't then I don't feel sorry for them 1 bit. it's there job to find this out ahead of time they get there elections canada card early. those robo calls I never listen to them and didn't think nothing of it.
DeleteAnon, Warren, libblogger whatever
DeleteHas the opposition, as requested since they went into overdrive on this, submitted their evidence to the RCMP? No? Really, you need to show proof that there was first of all intent and who it was that conspired to do the act. You know that old actus rea, and mens rea thingy the police need to make an arrest and have the charges stand up in court. You do have that right?
Your fellow travellers seem quite willing to claim guilt before the proof has been tested, I do however have a theory why this erratic behaviour is being demonstrated for reasons other than out right hatred of Harper.
This is just denial that Harper has proven them wrong, and for the liberal mind, they are supposed to be masters of the political. There is an active suspension of disbelief that some one other then them, particularly a conservative, could best them.
Lets review some recent history.
At first Harper was critized that he could never win the leadership of the Canadian Alliance, which he did.
Then they said he would never be successful because he would never be able to unite the right, which he did.
Then they said he would never become PM, and that Paul Martin would win the biggest majority in history. Martin got reduced to a minority and then Harper beat him to become PM.
Then the claim was made that Harper could never seal the deal and win a majority...which he has.
See a pattern?
Now the hyperbole that these crank calls are proof of the biggest scandal in Canadian history and that it will bring down the Harper government.
Well, lets just correct one point, the biggest scandal in Canadian history happened under the Chretien government, Adscam, and these prognostications the liberal and the media keep making don't seem to be coming true, more like its all wishful thinking.
Perhaps its time for you guys to figure out if you want to pretend that its 1967 forever, or just get on with the business of merging with the NDP...which incidentally is what Mulclair may be cooking up with Bob Rae.
While your busy reconstructing the New Liberal Social Party and trying to keep young Justin from making his next erruption I offer this piece of advise.
Harper won, get over it.
Elections Canada has requested additional powers to examine documentation pertaining to this issue. The CPC, through a committee study dominated by Cons, has rejected this request.
ReplyDeleteAlthough you correctly identify that the facts of the issue are not all exposed yet, and you correctly identify that some facts have been distorted in the stories that have been circulated, politics is rarely ever about what IS. Politics is about appearances. How does refusing to allow Elections Canada investigate further make the government appear?
I am neither left nor right. I poke at them all.
I will be the first to admit that this may not be the Conservatives, but on the other hand, if Robocalls did happen, regardless of who did it, it is illegal, and troubling that voter suppression is happening to such a degree in Canada.
I have yet to hear anyone from the government say "we will do everything in our power to restore public confidence in the democratic institutions". All we hear is "prove it" "prove it" "no evidence". That's odd. On the one hand, the CPC says there is no evidence, and then in the next breath, they say "we got the calls too." Which is it? Do the calls exist or don't they?
You can't have it both ways.
My perception, is that such responses as "prove it", whether the CPC is involved or not, are not what I ascribe to "responsible governance".
The CPC won the election. So it is easy to cry "sore losers" at the other parties. If the CPC had lost, however, and Robocalls were discovered to have dissuaded voters, would the CPC simply accept being called "sore losers" by the government of the day?
PS: I find it ironic that in order to post this, I need to type two words to prove that I am not a "robot". Haha!
Well anonymous are you wearing a hood as you type these messages and have to hide under anonymity because your so afraid someone will find out your an idiot.You guys should need to type 25 words to prove your not robots
Deleteactually ec said it was legal just dirty
DeleteIf you want the Conservatives to hand everything over to the opposition and not just Elections Canada and the RCMP then the Liberals and the NDP (especially the sleazy NDP) should have to do the same in reverse.
ReplyDeleteWe will start with the opposition parties then the Government.It is only fair that since all the screaming and nashing of teeth is coming from the opposition and MSM maybe a few midnight raids on their offices will be warranted,like they did to the Conservatives already.
DeleteThe coalition have nothing as Charlie Angus said on Monday , and Terry Mileski said on Tues., so now they are looking for the Conservative info they handed over to the RCMP(not sure I trust EC)to build their baseless case... more NDP and Liberal "supporters" coming forward for fRANK Valeriote? The Liberals ARE FAMOUS FOR DIRTY TRICK AND I SMELL THEM ALL OVER THIS MAKING THE CALLS THEMSELVES. Very EASY TO DO. HELP FROM SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS WOULDN'T HURT THEIR CAUSE EITHER. Don't forget the illegal voting done in Guelp University..EC admited it but counted the vote. Lets have a bye election...After Valeriote's dirty tricks he won by 6322 votes. SYMPATHY VOTES? keep on operating Liberano's. Next election the Conservatives will be watching you closer. remember the truck load of Cons signs in the Liberal trucks and they got CHARGED. How about Joe Volpe and Adam caroll taking green party literature out of mailbox's caught on camera. Yeah...take the high road.
ReplyDeletewe should have called the elections when we found out about the sponsorship scandal illegitimate and had a election that day auto matically but did you here any conservative in the house of commons saying we should have an election now. nope
DeleteI suspect the crank calls where made by the same bright lights that participated in the G20 riots.
DeleteAnarchists don't care about winning fights, they just want to start them.
The Toronto Star cites three call centre whistleblowers from the RMG(Responsive Marketing Group) call centre in Thunder Bay who seemed to have known on election day that they were directing people to the wrong voting stations. Of course, in the same breathless article, the three call centre employees also report that:Quote: call centre employees sometimes changed scripts on their own, without the knowledge of their superiors or the party; the callers were clearly instructed to identify themselves as representatives of the “Conservative Party of Canada;” some of their call centre co-workers decided on their own to falsely say they were calling from” Elections Canada.”Election’s Canada changed 127 voting booths a few days before the election which had parties in panic mode to notify their voters of the changes.
ReplyDeleteThere is a scandal here, which doesn’t have anything to do with the conservative party.